Please help me on set_override;

GraphiX2005 · Post by **GraphiX2005** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:07 am

hey people i've been messing with irc servers for some time now
but the servers i been messing with was conferenceroom from webmaster
i decided to swap to this one to learn how to manually configure
unrealircd, upto now its going great just i got a few questions
on the same topic i dont understand

since using the server we've been using OperServ as were ircop's
which works very well but i come accross a server the other day
and a name called Ted joined the room he wasn't an op in that channel
but then he op'd himself so it looked like this

****Ted sets modes: +o Ted.

when i got speaking asking what ircd he used he said unreal
why? so went on to say how did you do that? op yourself like that
without either chanserv doing it or operserv
he said he just typed /mode #channel +o nick
and because he was ircop it bypass'd operserv
so it looked like Ted Sets modes: +o Ted

now when ever i try to op myself using the following here's
how it looks

/msg operserv mode #channel + GraphiX
does the following
***OperServ sets modes: +o GraphiX

/msg chanserv op #channel +o GraphiX
does the following
***Chanserv sets modes: +o GraphiX

if i try /samode #channel +o GraphiX
is says ***irc.myservername.com sets modes: +o GraphiX

i can't get mine to say ***GraphiX sets modes: +o GraphiX
from starting off (bypassing operserv)

if i try /mode #channel +o GraphiX

it says Sorry your not a channel Operator:
even when i can use all OperServ and all other IRCop commands
incl /samode

we've swaped config files to see if i have missed a setting in the flags
but it's identical how come mine doesnt work like he's?
were both using the same version of unrealircd

its driving me nuts why this isnt working for my server
but it works fine for hes server is there anyone here who
can hopefully help me out? thanks

White_Magic · Post by **White_Magic** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:01 am

the flag he has is can_override;
this is what is allowing him to do it,
if its not can_override; then the server has been altered and no suppor twill be given.

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Some little info about OperOverride:
OperOverride are things like: joining a +ikl channel and going through bans (you need to /invite yourself first however), op'ing yourself in a channel, etc.
The can_override operflag was added as an attempt to stop oper abuse. No oper is able to override by default, you would have to give them the can_override flag explicitly.

from the help docs..

GraphiX2005 · Post by **GraphiX2005** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:32 am

msg operserv mode #channel + GraphiX
does the following
***OperServ sets modes: +o GraphiX

/msg chanserv op #channel +o GraphiX
does the following
***Chanserv sets modes: +o GraphiX

if i try /samode #channel +o GraphiX
is says ***irc.myservername.com sets modes: +o GraphiX

i can't get mine to say ***GraphiX sets modes: +o GraphiX
from starting off (bypassing operserv)

if i try /mode #channel +o GraphiX

it says Sorry your not a channel Operator:
even when i can use all OperServ and all other IRCop commands
incl /samode

That to me totally indicates that if operserv/and samode
work using them above commands mate i've done the config file right
you said there wont be anymore help on this may i ask why?
i'ts my server i'd like to know what option to "change" then
so i can hopefully get this working.

here is a copy of my flags on my config if you'd be-able to
help further also he's got anope services installed
now i know you dont support anope or any others but
im un-sure if it matters if services are installed or not .

oper GraphiX {
class clients;
from {
userhost *@*.blueyonder.co.uk;
};
password "test";
flags
{
netadmin;
global;
can_override;
};
};

much appreciated thank you

Stealth · Post by **Stealth** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:14 am

When you make a change to your oper block, you must rehash, de-oper, and re-oper for it to work. To de-oper, you can "/mode yournick -o" or reconnect.

White_Magic · Post by **White_Magic** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:04 pm

support is only given if the source isnt changed, and yours doesnt seem to be so no problems,

GraphiX2005 · Post by **GraphiX2005** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:17 pm

ok guys appreciate the help but its still no different ive changed
the config taken of can_override; rehashed, dis-connected
rebooted my pc and the server pc, tried it i get the following
nothing seems to be different with having set_override; in the conf or not

if i oper up i get these flags

* GraphiX sets mode: +oghaAsN
-
Server notice mask (+kcfvGqso)
-
You are now an IRC Operator

if i don't have a @ in a channel i can type the following
which proves ircop mode is working

/msg chanserv op #channel +o nick
shows ***ChanServ sets modes: +o nick

if i use /msg OperServ mode #channel +o nick
shows ***OperServ sets modes: +o nick

if i use /samode #channel +o nick
shows ***.irc.myserverhost.com sets modes: +o Nick

but if i type /mode #channel +o nick it says the following
* GraphiX: you're not channel operator

so seems for some reason if i set or dont set_override;
it makes no difference if im not an op in a channel i.e. have @
with me being ircop i should still beable to type /mode #channel +o nick
and it should say ***GraphiX sets modes: +o GraphiX
as im bypassing OperServ

so i've tried everything you've surgested but still no luck

White_Magic · Post by **White_Magic** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:21 pm

* GraphiX sets mode: +oghaAsN

u dont have can_override in ur flags, if u do it should give u a " v " as u can see there is no v there, so there must be a error on ur config file in your oper block.

GraphiX2005 · Post by **GraphiX2005** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:31 pm

ok thanks for the quick reply but you've seen above my
oper-block it's the same as above is there any other method
i could use then, to add the flag "V" i've seen before the old
flags from the manual way back few years ago but with this
new flags now comming in maybe it's not recognising it so
is there anything u could surgest or maybe takeing a quick scan of my
.conf file?

White_Magic · Post by **White_Magic** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:36 pm

just repaste ur oper block, change the password and oper login name before posting it please

paste ur entire block.

GraphiX2005 · Post by **GraphiX2005** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:55 pm

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oper GraphiX {
	class		clients;
	from {
		userhost *@*.blueyonder.co.uk;
	};
	password "test";
	flags
	{
		netadmin;
		global;
		can_override;
	};
};

this is my oper block

also using su privliges inside mirc/client
can you add/remove flags from a oper user?
or can this only be done hard coded into the oper block?

White_Magic · Post by **White_Magic** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:17 pm

okie, type /rehash
do you get any errors in the information displayed to u (do this as a ircop)

and, its possible to remove flags from users via commands.

GraphiX2005 · Post by **GraphiX2005** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:38 pm

ok rehased no errors at all everything working
if you can tell me how i can add flags to users
i got the operserv su password now so this should let
me assign the "v" flag to my name and other flags right?
i've read the document over and over i've checked the conf file
the more i look into this the deeper it gets lol

i've checked all the /msg operserv help commands
and dont see any mention how to add flags to/from
an oper or admin

also checked the conf file and it doesnt explain
when adding a user to admin service or oper service
through /msg operserv add oper/admin
where do you asign which flags that user has?
i mean does it just assign them default flags? or do you
assign them some where?

White_Magic · Post by **White_Magic** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:48 pm

im baffled :p

the can override should be giving u the ablity to do that so there must be something else somewhere, the operserv su is mainly for removing modes from people not adding them,. i really not sure if u could add such flags as operoverride. sorry

GraphiX2005 · Post by **GraphiX2005** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:53 pm

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<GraphiX> all u get is this
<GraphiX> -OperServ- Type /msg OperServ HELP ADMIN for more information.
<GraphiX> -
<GraphiX> -> *operserv* help admin
<GraphiX> -
<GraphiX> -OperServ- Syntax: ADMIN ADD nickname
<GraphiX> -
<GraphiX> -OperServ-         ADMIN DEL nickname
<GraphiX> -
<GraphiX> -OperServ-         ADMIN LIST
<GraphiX> -
<GraphiX> -OperServ-

ok i got su password for super user mode, no where
in that sub-section explains or even shows an option where
you can add flags or even remove flags so since you know
how you do it via mirc/irc using /commands can you tell me pls
where you can assign flags other than hard coding the .conf file
and where is it gettin the default flags from when adding
a oper admin | service Admin and the above?
thanks

GraphiX2005 · Post by **GraphiX2005** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:45 pm

my next comment is im really greatful for the help
but why is it only you in the entire thausands on this forum
thats replying? and giving help?

i cant see how or what more can be wrong with the config
and i thaught the question of
"how do you add flags to oper users through operserv"
would be one that everyone would of wondered or asked
the only way i see of adding flags to users is physically
on the .conf file

but this is confussing me as you can add an oper/admin through
operserv so what flags are these users gettin added via operserv
actually gettining i can't see any flags in the conf file explaining
where they are gettin one of these defaults from

if anyone else out there wants to post there' 2pence worth
i'd appreciate it as it seems to just be "white_magic"